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Tuesday, November 13, 2012

Secession Petitions Filed in 20 States, or More

                                                                                                

The Wing Nuts are coming apart at the seams. 

A fair election awarded President Obama a second term and the tea party goons and birth-er's and truth-er's want to secede from the Union.    Haven't we been through this silliness before?

A tiny minority of the dissatisfied whiners want to decide the direction for their whole state.     How did we arrive at this point in our country where the Republican Party is such a wasted group of pathetic fools?

ACVDN  urges You to go to   http://wh.gov/9Fcq  and sign this petition.


We Petition the Obama Administration to:

Strip the Citizenship from Everyone who Signed a Petition to Secede and Exile Them

Mr. President, please sign an executive order such that each American citizen who signed a petition from any state to secede from the USA shall have their citizenship stripped and be peacefully deported.

Created: Nov 12, 2012



To sign the petition you must open an account (FREE) at WhiteHouse.gov

http://wh.gov/9Fcq

Email this link to your friends and family and everyone you know: http://wh.gov/9Fcq


In the wake of last week's presidential election, thousands of Americans have signed petitions seeking permission for their states to peacefully secede from the United States.    The petitions were filed on We the People, a government website.

States with citizens filing include Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas.     Oddly, folks from Georgia have filed twice.    Even stranger, several of the petitions come from states that went for President Barack Obama.

When right wing nut jobs don't get their way they behave like spoiled brats.   Their side lost in a straight up clean election and yet they can not accept the out come of the election.    Visit http://wh.gov/9Fcq   open an account for free and sign a petition to remove citizenship and deport these Secessionist to any other country that will have them.   

The petitions are short and to the point. For example, a petition from the Volunteer State reads: "Peacefully grant the State of Tennessee to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.    " Of all the petitions, Texas has the most signatures so far, with more than 23,000.

Of course, this is mostly a symbolic gesture.     The odds of the American government granting any state permission to go its own way are on par with winning the lottery while getting hit by a meteor while seeing Bigfoot while finding gluten-free pizza that tastes like the real thing.

An article from WKRC quotes a University of Louisville political science professor who explained that these petitions aren't uncommon.    Similar petitions were filed following the 2004 and 2008 elections.   Still, should the petitions garner 25,000 signatures in a month, they will require an official response from the Obama administration.

From the We the People site:

The right to petition your government is guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.    We the People provides a new way to petition the Obama Administration to take action on a range of important issues facing our country. 

We created We the People because we want to hear from you.    If a petition gets enough support, White House staff will review it, ensure it's sent to the appropriate policy experts, and issue an official response.

Not everybody who wants to secede is polite enough to write a petition.   Peter Morrison, treasurer of the Hardin County (Texas) Republican Party, wrote a post-election newsletter in which he urges the Lone Star State to leave the Union.    

"We must contest every single inch of ground and delay the baby-murdering, tax-raising socialists at every opportunity.   But in due time, the maggots will have eaten every morsel of flesh off of the rotting corpse of the Republic, and therein lies our opportunity... Why should Vermont and Texas live under the same government?        Let each go her own way in peace, sign a free trade agreement among the states and we can avoid this gut-wrenching spectacle every four years."    said   Peter Morrisontreasurer of the Hardin County (Texas) Republican Party.


Lets set these dissatisfied citizens free.   Revoke their citizenship and peacefully deport them to the country of their choosing or what ever country will take them.     It is the way to create a more perfect union.





Rick Perry  Supports 3 Things, 
Succession isn't 1 of the 3 and he can't remember one.   That's par for the course for Rick.

Conservative's want to be free from the tremendous burden of being American?   We should help them.



Texas Gov. Rick Perry does not stand behind a secession petition filed with the White House by a Lone Star State resident in the aftermath of the presidential election.

The Dallas Morning News reports that the Republican governor's press secretary, Catherine Frazier, said in an email that Perry "believes in the greatness of our Union and nothing should be done to change it."    She added,   "But he also shares the frustrations many Americans have with our federal government. Now more than ever our country needs strong leadership from states like Texas, that are making tough decisions to live within their means, keep taxes low and provide opportunities to job creators so their citizens can provide for their families and prosper."

Several years ago, however, Perry declined to rule out the possibility that Texas could secede from the United States if 
significant changes weren't made to the nation's economic policies.

"There's a lot of different scenarios,"   he said at a Tea Party rally in 2009, CNN reported at the time.     "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it.     But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that.     But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."

The Texas governor raised eyebrows when he said,  "When we came into the nation in 1845, we were a republic, we were a 
stand-alone nation,"   adding,   "And one of the deals was, we can leave anytime we want.     So we’re kind of thinking about that again."

Last year, Perry sought to clarify his position on the issue during an interview on Fox News.    He pointed out that he  "never used"  the term  "secession"  in discussing the matter and said that he had  "no idea"  why anyone would suggest otherwise.

Residents in more than 25 states have filed secession petitions -- like the one from Micah H. (no last name provided) of Arlington, Texas -- in recent days.     Petitions require at least 25,000 signatures in a 30 day period to qualify for review. 

The White House website explains:   "If a petition meets the signature threshold, it will be reviewed by the Administration 
and we will issue a response."

The petition filed by Micah H. had received more than 50,000 signatures as of late Monday night.    It reads:

The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government's neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending.    The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc.    Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it's citizens' standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.

It's too bad, however, for Micah H. and other Texans arguing for secession.     Robert Wilonsky at The Dallas Morning News 
noted on Monday that it's not going to happen.

The other 24.9 million Texans will gladly let these few go wherever they want.    It should be pointed out that this opportunity to express their opinions, is the result of the Open Government Initiative, started in 2009, by President Obama.




Florida Hasn't Learned How to Hold an Election and Assure Its Citizens the Right to Vote.    

So they are hard at work solving that problem?   NO.  They're trying to sucede from the Union.

So, in light of Barack Obama resoundingly winning reelection by virtue of both the electoral college and the popular vote and in the process winning traditional GOP strongholds Ohio and Florida, some brave American heroes have decided to stand up to the oppression of a democratically elected president as per the Constitution of the United States of America and decided to ask that president to let them secede from the United States of America because it's totally what Ben Franklin would've done because... he's got bitchin' quotes about revolution and stuff.

A bunch of states, including Florida, have jumped on the White House's website and are using the We the People page  (built by President Obama to help folks start petitions and give constructive feedback on how best to run the government)  to ask Obama to let them walk away from the Union.


These disheartened Florida patriots want Obama to let them peacefully withdraw from the U.S. so it can create its own new government.

Their reason: Because the federal government has not led us with honor and justice.

Good one, seceders!  

Also, because the Founding Fathers said a bunch of awesome stuff about seceding from the British Empire, who also were led by a black man (little-known fact!):

WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:
Peacefully grant the State of Florida to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.

We the people of the great state of Florida, do see that in today's world the Federal Government has not led our citizens justly and with honor.   We therefore as free men and women of our great state do believe that it is time to take matter upon ourselves to ensure our continued freedom, and to enact our own laws and here by govern ourselves without the federal government's involvement in our internal matters from this day forward.

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin: 1775

Essentially, these brave souls are asking Obama and the federal government to take their unemployment benefits thousands count on,   their Medicaid the state's elderly count on,  their protection provided by the armed forces,  funding to help eventual hurricane and tropical storm victims,  money to help fix roads and bridges, and all the other things these free men and women use on a daily basis but apparently can do without because the president is a black man and Ben Franklin once said something about temporary safety.

The Florida petition, which needs to reach 25,000 signatures by December, so far has 6,454 signatures.     The population of Florida based on 2011 estimates is 19,057,542.




How Do Republicans Feel About Being the Stupid Party and All of the Right Wing Media Lying to Them?   Will Republicans be smarter next time?



 As television networks began declaring that President Barack Obama had won re-election, the most captivating televised drama Tuesday evening played out on Fox News, where Republican strategist Karl Rove refused to believe the race between Obama and Mitt Romney was over.

"I think this is premature,"   said Rove, a former senior adviser to George W. Bush and architect of Bush's two successful runs for the White House.

"We know that Karl has a rooting interest,"    Fox host Chris Wallace replied.

More than a rooting interest:   Rove was the most prolific fundraiser for Republican causes during the 2012 election cycle.

With the assistance of a few powerful Republican friends, Rove helped to secure an estimated $300 million for Republican candidates, hoping to help turn the White House over to Romney and control of the U.S. Senate to Republicans.

In a $6 billion campaign, Rove's ability to part wealthy Republicans from their money made the political operative - who co-founded the American Crossroads  "Super PAC"  - a force in the party's effort to take down Obama.

Democratic groups raised millions of dollars based on appeals that focused on the threat Rove and the Crossroads groups posed to Democrats.

As it turned out, Obama held the White House and in nine of the 10 Senate races where Rove's groups spent the most money, the Democratic candidate won.

On Wednesday, Republicans' discontent was evident.

Conservative activist Richard Viguerie said in a statement Wednesday that  "in any logical universe,"  Rove  "would never be 
hired to run or consult on a national campaign again and no one would give a dime to their ineffective Super PACs, such as 
American Crossroads."

According to the Center for Responsive Politics, Rove's group spent more than $1 million in 10 different Senate races.

At the top of that group, Crossroads spent $11.2 million opposing Senate candidate Tim Kaine in Virginia, $7 million opposing Representative Shelley Berkley in Nevada, and $6 million in both Ohio and Wisconsin, opposing Senator Sherrod Brown and Tammy Baldwin, a member of the House of Representatives who was elected to the U.S. Senate.

Only Berkley lost on Tuesday.

For months, Rove's commercials told Montanans that their U.S. senator, Jon Tester, was  "a top recipient of campaign cash 
from lobbyists and big banks."

Missourians were instructed to tell their Democratic senator, Claire McCaskill,  "to stop spending and cut the debt."

In those races, as in Florida and Indiana, Rove's candidate lost. 

Only in Nevada, where Senator Dean Heller was challenged 
by Berkley, did Rove assist with a victory in race where he invested more than $1 million.

According to calculations made by the Sunlight Foundation, a nonpartisan group that seeks more transparency in campaign 
finance, Rove's outfits provided dismal returns to investors.

By the group's measure, 1 percent of the more than $100 million spent by American Crossroads achieved its desired results. 

Thirteen percent of the more than $70 million spent by Crossroads GPS did the same, the Sunlight Foundation said.

With Obama retaining the White House and the Democrats winning many tight Senate races, other conservative spending groups faltered, just as Rove's did.

Only 5 percent of the money spent by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce resulted in its desired effect, as measured by the 
Sunlight Foundation.

'THIS THING WAS WON'

In an interview with Reuters earlier this year, Rove said he wanted Crossroads to be a "permanent presence" in U.S. politics, an organization that would work alongside the Republican Party and employ the party's top strategists while remaining an attractive home for the party's most influential donors.

In 2007, Rove resigned as Bush's deputy chief of staff amid questions about his role in the firing of a federal prosecutor. 

With Bush's legacy bruised even among his own party, the 2012 campaign provided Rove a shot at redemption.

Appearing on Fox News on Wednesday morning, Rove sifted for a few gems in the election's rubble.

He said Obama's margin of victory among young voters decreased in his second election. He said Obama is the first president to be re-elected with a smaller share of the vote than in his first election.

Saying that Romney had convinced voters he was a better leader and had a better vision than Obama, Rove offered a different 
spin on Romney's losing campaign.

"This thing,"   Rove said,  "was won."

Mr Rove, the Koch bros would like fit you for a new pair of shoes. They are made of cement.

I know.    I happened to be watching fox at the time.

I truly can't believe how bad people like Karl Rove, Dick Morris, Donald Trump, Bill Oreilly,  Hannity, Rush LIE to the 
people that watch or listen to them.

Dick Morris said mittens would win by a land slide.   He said mittens would get 323 electrol votes.   HE LIED. It wasn't even 
close to what happened. mittens didn't even get the most popular votes.

They said the young, black, hispanic wouldn't turn out for Obama. They DID turn out.    Some places more than 2008.

They said all the polls are wrong.     They were NOT.

They lied or they were  so wrong on what they predicted.   People need to stop listening to all their lies and bull.

Fox won a lawsuit saying that they can lie and make up stuff.

The attorneys for Fox, owned by media baron Rupert Murdoch, argued the First Amendment gives broadcasters the right to lie 
or deliberately distort news reports on the public airwaves.

In its six-page written decision, the Court of Appeals held that the Federal Communications Commission position against news distortion is only a  “policy,”  not a promulgated law, rule, or regulation.    Fox aired a report after the ruling saying it was “totally vindicated”  by the verdict.

I really do feel sad for these people that believe them.   They hang on to every world and are faithful to them.    But Fox and Rush just laugh there way to the banks.     At some given point you have to enter the alternate reality to believe the far fetched stories these right wing mouth pieces spread.     The real question is can the GOP lie to you as easily next time?     ACVDN  bets you will be just as gullible in 2016 as you were in 2012.     Lets face it No Republican is going to tell you the truth, they want your vote.


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